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California quail: http://bit.ly/HarbinBook, Tom Boellstorff and AoIR, Here is my new book "Naked Harbin Ethnography" re virtual world generation, with Discount code here - http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html - for https://www.createspace.com/6072369. (It comes into conversation with your, Tom, "Coming of Age in Second Life: An Anthropologist Explores the Virtually Human" (Princeton 2008)), Media Anthropology, New Amazon web page ~ https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/ ...

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New Amazon web page ~
https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/

New short web address ~
http://bit.ly/HarbinBook


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Hi Tom and AoIR,

Here is my new book "Naked Harbin Ethnography" re virtual world generation, with Discount code here -
http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html - for https://www.createspace.com/6072369. (It  comes into conversation with your, Tom, "Coming of Age in Second Life: An Anthropologist Explores the Virtually Human" (Princeton 2008)).

It's also the first book published in the new Academic Press at World University and School, planned for all 7,943 languages, with machine translation. (World University and School seeks to become the "Harvards of the Web" in all ~200 countries, creating major online universities, and accrediting on CC MIT OpenCourseWare in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC.

Click on the Harbin Gate link in Google Street View part way down the book's main page to begin to visit Harbin online.

All the best, Scott

scottmacleod.com
worlduniversityandschool.org

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Tom Boellstorff tboellst@uci.edu

Sep 10 (2 days ago)
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Wonderful news, Scott—congratulations and I am flattered by your engaging with my work! All the best, Tom

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Thanks, Tom, so much for your great "Coming of Age in Second Life: An Anthropologist Explores the Virtually Human" (Princeton 2008) and your engagement with my book, as well. 

I looked up last July 2015 all the courses I could find that teach your "Coming of Age in SL" and found one at MIT, one from MIT OCW, and one each from Cornell, UC Berkeley and Brown, all of which you'll find here - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2015/07/syzygium-harbin-hot-springs-book.html - plus much more about my Harbin book thematically. My "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book can be read chapter to chapter with yours. And I hope to reach out to the professors above in these regards. Do you know of other syllabi where your CoAiSL is taught? I'd like my book to get onto university syllabi. 

I've also added our chapter 1s to the amazing Pokemon Go Syllabus in GDocs, in week 3, under "theorizing place" - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xYuozfkON-RVZQkr7d1qLPJrCRqN8TkzeDySM-3pzeA/edit?usp=sharing - but these same chapters could be read in terms of the digital and the real, where I examine the virtual and and the actual, as central themes in my book. 
Here's the new bit.ly URL for my academic and researcher-oriented Harbin book - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook (with about 180 photos of Harbin) - where researchers & internet librarians will find the DISCOUNT code.


All the best, Scott


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[Taking the whole AoIR list off of this email thread so they don’t get spammed…]

That all sounds great! I don’t know off hand of other syllabi using my book but I know there are a good number. Sorry this is so rushed—I’m in O’Hare airport between flights, heading to Notre Dame to give a talk tomorrow. Congrats once again! All the best, Tom


Not sure how the Notre Dame talk is being announced. There are a few videos on my stuff out there - Drax did a really wonderfully produced one a few months ago - here’s the link! All the best, Tom

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Thanks, Tom!

Appreciating your great generativity with regards to digital anthropology!

Can you point please to a recent YouTube or UC video, for example, of a talk of yours incorporating your thinking in CoAiSL, with "Ethnography and Virtual Worlds" and other related publications - and your upcoming talk at Notre Dame?  

Will probably reply to Barry Wellman on the AoIR re his WUaS Universal Translator email as research project (from today) - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - and ways in which ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - as a new method I'm developing will also facilitate an universal translator. Re ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy, check out the 36 slides of a talk I gave at UC Berkeley last November - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tAhXFinq8xm8BDFcceoHsNBHJi0wpS0HDFh40PXsQ2I/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000&slide=id.p - also on my Harbin book page - http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html

All the best, Scott

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Not sure how the Notre Dame talk is being announced. There are a few videos on my stuff out there - Drax did a really wonderfully produced one a few months ago - here’s the link! All the best, Tom

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The Drax Files: World Makers [Episode 31: Tom Boellstorff]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6tB2KiZuk


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Hi Media Anthropology colleagues,

I just shared this announcement of my new ethnographic book with a virtual world aspect with the Association of Internet Researchers.

Here is my new book "Naked Harbin Ethnography" re virtual world generation, with Discount code here - http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html - for https://www.createspace.com/6072369. (It  comes into conversation with Tom Boellstorff's "Coming of Age in Second Life: An Anthropologist Explores the Virtually Human" (Princeton 2008)).

It's also the first book published in the new Academic Press at World University and School, planned for all 7,943 languages, with machine translation. (CC wiki World University and School seeks to become the "Harvards of the Web" in all ~200 countries, creating major online universities, and accrediting on CC MIT OpenCourseWare in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC).

Click on the Harbin Gate link in Google Street View part way down the book's main page to begin to visit Harbin online.

All the best, Scott

scottmacleod.com
worlduniversityandschool.org


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Thanks to Tom Boellstorff so much for his great "Coming of Age in Second Life: An Anthropologist Explores the Virtually Human" (Princeton 2008) and his engagement with my book, as well (in the AoIR and in other ways). 

I looked up last July 2015 all the courses I could find that teach his "Coming of Age in SL" and found one at MIT, one from MIT OCW, and one each from Cornell, UC Berkeley and Brown, all of which you'll find here - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2015/07/syzygium-harbin-hot-springs-book.html - plus much more about my Harbin book thematically. My "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book can be read chapter to chapter with his. And I hope to reach out to the professors above in these regards. Does anyone know of other syllabi where Tom's CoAiSL is taught? I'd like my book to get onto other university syllabi. 

I've also added Tom and my chapter 1s to the amazing Pokemon Go Syllabus in GDocs, in week 3, under "theorizing place" - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xYuozfkON-RVZQkr7d1qLPJrCRqN8TkzeDySM-3pzeA/edit?usp=sharing - but these same chapters could be read in terms of the digital and the real, where I examine the virtual and and the actual, as central themes in my book. 
Here's the new bit.ly URL for my academic and researcher-oriented Harbin book - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook (with about 180 photos of Harbin) - where researchers & internet librarians will find the DISCOUNT code.


All the best, Scott



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Eschscholzia californica: "Harbin - A Year Later" video, The SF Chronicle Harbin article is the real thing~FRONT PAGE SF Chronicle article on M, 9/12/16, Re: [Air-L] a great experiment, I hope the universal translator explored below will emerge in the virtual Harbin for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy, too - as well as for just hanging out online at Harbin.

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Harbin - A Year Later


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XAMSYmdlz0

http://harbin.org/harbin-a-year-later-video/
http://harbin.org/harbin-a-year-later-video/?utm_source=September+Newsletter+2016

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The Harbin article is the real thing - actually really great - may contact Kurtis Alexander, as well as Don Lattin, "Harvard Psychedelic Club" author , and forner religion writer at the Chronicle about "Naked Harbin Ethnography," Heard Don give 2 out of 3 talks about HPC at BA book stores in 2010 - interesting crowd too. 

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FRONT PAGE SF Chronicle article on Monday, September 12, 2016 (with large color photographs!) ...

A year after Valley Fire, visions of Harbin Hot Springs’ new life

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/A-year-after-Valley-Fire-visions-of-Harbin-Hot-9216334.php

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I hope the universal translator explored below will emerge in the virtual Harbin for ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy, too - as well as for just hanging out online at Harbin.

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Great idea, Barry, and Association of Internet Researchers!

Curious too how researchers as interns in all 7K languages might "teach" a developing Universal Translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - which is like Google Translate (100 languages) with Wikipedia's Content Translation with its Wiktionary dictionary informing this, and in its Wikidata/Wikibase databases, which are in Wikipedia's 358 languages, developing with AI, machine learning and machine translation (with many posts about a WUaS universal translator). For example, here's a recent blog post about teaching an universal translator Italian - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/05/leafy-seadragon-first-wuas-job.html - (as part of a first WUaS job description too). Not sure how "teaching" Google Translate's AI and machine translation, or teaching Wikipedia's Content Translation works (especially eventually with Wiktionary) - but WUaS plans to develop as research and teaching opportunity a robust Universal Translator in all 7,097 living languages (re Ethnologue) and in all 7,943 entries under languages (re Glottolog).

Also re a universal translator in a virtual earth, and as a research project (and re a new methodology WUaS is developing which I'm calling ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - here's a recent UC Berkeley talk I gave last November 2015 about ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy - 36 slides from UC Berkeley talk on F 11/6/15 - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tAhXFinq8xm8BDFcceoHsNBHJi0wpS0HDFh40PXsQ2I/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000 (accessible here - http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html and here http://bit.ly/HarbinBook). I hope we can all be in a film-realistic, 3D, group build-able, interactive, STEM, with realistic avatars' virtual earth like Google Street View with time slider with Open Sim, and with a universal translator in all 7,097 languages - all as research projects for all kinds of STEM researchers.

How this will all work for book publishing and translation in multiple languages is still unfolding research-wise. RE the Bible as the basis of Universal Translator, since it's been translated into some 1300 languages many pre-copyright, here are slides from a talk I gave about this - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2015/03/orchidaceae-wuas-1000-proposed-issip.html.

Great thoughts!

All the best,
Scott


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Scott Macleod writes:

"It's also the first book published in the new Academic Press at World
University and School, planned for all 7,943 languages, with machine
translation."

This strikes me as a wonderful research project (but not for me) comparing how Machine Translation does with the same text in > 7K language.s

Although, the RSV of the Bible might even be better.

Just a thought on a Sunday night.

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Leafy seadragon: First WUaS Job Description - Director of Italian language and Italy World University and School, 20 hours per week

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/05/leafy-seadragon-first-wuas-job.html

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Orchidaceae: "WUaS-1000 Proposed ISSIP Grand Challenge: An Universal Translator, beginning as a Guidebook with Test" Presentation by Scott MacLeod tomorrow, March 11, 2015 at 7:30 am PT, Your posting this will potentially bring in Turkish speakers who might be interested in contributing to an Universal Translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - which is both like CC Wikipedia and for non-CC related commer*cial purposes, Turkey and Turkish language WUaS not yet in Turkish

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2015/03/orchidaceae-wuas-1000-proposed-issip.html



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Rosemary: Auspicious for distributing my Harbin ethnographic book ~ SF Chronicle FRONT PAGE great article on Re-building Harbin, Here's my book in the French Amazon.FR ~ bit.ly/HarbinBook ~ Am exploring Music Play Spaces for Scottish small pipes in group video ... will seek to explore generating a choir as well, MIT Media Lab teaching job on January 1st, 2017?, Am exploring also Music Play Spaces for Scottish small pipes in group video, Exploring in new ways generating loving bliss neurophysiology as playing a musical instrument

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Hi M,
There was a FRONT PAGE great article on Re-building Harbin - on paper - in the main SF Chronicle yesterday, Monday, September 12, 2016. Here it is, but with video here:

A year after Valley Fire, visions of Harbin Hot Springs’ new life
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/A-year-after-Valley-Fire-visions-of-Harbin-Hot-9216334.php
Couldn't be more auspicious for selling my Harbin ethnographic book ... I thank the Bay Area culture that generated this SF Chronicle article ...

And here's my book at the French Amazon.fr ...
... my Harbin book is probably in all 26 or so countries' Amazon bookstores in the EU that use the Euro, as well as available UK and Norway which don't use the Euro (but is not yet translated into any other languages) ... all good models for my big project's (WUaS's) planned online bookstores in each countries' main and official languages - and with Academic Presses in countries' main languages and with machine translation.
Not sure what the next steps are for beginning the MIT Media Lab teaching job on January 1st, 2017 .. but my book will help.

Am exploring Music Play Spaces for Scottish small pipes in group video ... will seek to explore generating a choir as well ... in real real time. If it was easy, well done and fun - with great music - would you be interested in singing in it? :)

L, Scott 

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Sounds good, A ... "Music Playing Spaces" ... possibly meeting online next week at 8pm PST on Tuesday. 

Curious too to explore creating a new Scottish small piping group video genre of music, that's somehow very beautiful music, too - such that it moves people for decades and longer. 

Curious too how to possibly create 4 volumes of College of Piping Tutors for the SSP, both riffing with the existing CoP Tutors, but also possibly choosing some very beautiful new music that builds learning-wise ... and of course explains the tuning of the drones in chords, and the multiple chanters. "Battle of Waterloo" tune works well on both chanters, but I don't know yet whether it works on the A & D chanters together as duet and harmony. 

May get back in to recording a Scottish small piping  tune daily - re the great GHB vpiper Jack Lee's learning technique - when my shoulder heals.

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How to move an open Music Playing Space for SSP playing and music-learning PARTY online into group video for face-to-face - so it's partly like the Northumbrian pub which Piper Kathryn Tickell so wonderfully eulogizes in her song about this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD-UT9HkNzg ? - but for "rocking-learning" over months and years? :) (R, in what ways does "rocking-learning" at the college-level happen for you at UC Berkeley?) Everybody doing Makey-Makey musically - or Play-ey Play-ey might help re Music Playing Space  ... and yet Music Play Spaces are also for playing/practicing, as I see this ...  re http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingMusicalInstrument.htm ... 

and here's where I've gone with this re exploring in new ways generating loving bliss neurophysiology ... http://scottmacleod.com/GuidelinesPracticingLovingBlissvavMusicalInstrument.htm but people can also make of them what they will  ... 

Cheers, Scott

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Hi B and All, 

In terms of Amazing Grace not appealing (albeit it's 5 part harmonies in this sheet music I've shared are a helpful model for composing harmonies for the SSP as I see it), I wonder about choosing tunes in D and A - perhaps Waltzes and Strathspeys since they are slower and often beautiful - from Liz Donaldson's Pink and Blue books - http://www.potomacvalleyscottishfiddle.org/public/webstore.html (which you'll find toward the bottom of this page). Do you have these already? I have the sense that the OpenBand musicians on Monday like these tunes in general, and like some more than others. :)




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Bengal tiger: WUaS in MediaWiki and Wikidata, Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikis back to 1.28.0-wmf.18, the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - with WUaS in Wikidata i.e. with the MIT OCW Q item - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1637597 (and its SQID ID - https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1637597) - and the Yale OYC Q item - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1091983 (and its SQID ID - https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1091983), The WUaS annual meeting is on Saturday October 8, 2017

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Hi Robert, Juan (Larry, WUaS Board members and friends), 

Thanks for your offer, Robert, to help develop the WUaS wiki recently. And greetings in Pittsburgh, Robert and Larry. 

This Wikitech-l email thread is about debugging MediaWiki. WUaS was installed anew in MediaWiki this January 2016 at the WikiDev conference in SF, thanks to Lydia Pintscher (of Wikidata), Ryan Kaldari (software engineer the Wikimedia Foundation SF, and UC Berkeley alum) who installed the English version and Jan Zerebecki (of Wikidata) who installed the German version. But this stopped working in March, perhaps due to the bug outlined in this Wikitech-l thread, and MediaWiki is still being debugged it would seem. And WUaS MediaWiki wasn't connected with Wikidata in January. 

Here are two blog entries about where WUaS would like to go with developing again in MediaWiki re a) all languages b) student applications as well as c) a course catalog when MediaWiki is working properly - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/liliaceae-wikidata-list-generation.html (http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/08/saguaro-next-steps-for-developing-wuas.html) - and in all 7,943 + languages (where Wikipedia/Wikidata is in 358). The Wikidata community are getting Wiktionary now working - with many implications for translation. What the steps are for bringing together the WUaS SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - with WUaS in Wikidata i.e. with the MIT OCW Q item - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1637597 (and its SQID ID - https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1637597) - and the Yale OYC Q item - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1091983 (and its SQID ID - https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1091983) - and in many other ways, are some things WUaS needs to plan for. (SQID is a way to extract information from Wikidata and potentially an intermediary to MediaWiki).

I'm hoping to attend the Wikimedia Developers' conference SF in the first week of January, and it would be great if Ryan and Jan could again re-install WUaS MediaWiki as well as connect it with the Wikidata newly. 

Robert, could you possibly please begin to become further familiar with WUaS, (MediaWiki), SQID, and Wikidata/Wikibase? Joining the Wikdata-l and Wikitech-l email lists opens the way to a community of coders and potentially for helpful resource sharing, Robert.

(Interesting that Antoine Musso in France who is spearheading getting MediaWiki working again in new versions has a last blog post from 2014 called "editor war haiku" - http://amusso.blogspot.com :)

Robert, I'll try to call you over the weekend to talk further about some of this. And I hope to explore reaching out to Lydia, Ryan, Jan and others about planning to do some of these installations (and in multiple languages) at the WMF WikiDev conference in January 2017. 

(The WUaS annual meeting is on Saturday October 8, 2017 at the same time as WUaS Monthly Business Meeting at 9 am Pacific Time for an hour). 

Sincerely, Scott





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Ficaria verna: WUaS Translation in Academic Press and "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book in the CreateSpace eBookstore - https://www.createspace.com/6072369 - in all the Amazon bookstores I found

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How to add great machine translation from WUaS Universal Translator - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator - in the Academic Press - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/AcademicPress.html - and translate my "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book into any of the following languages?

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Here below my Harbin book ( http://bit.ly/HarbinBook ) in some of its other channels, with prices in Pounds & Euros, and especially with the Academic Press at WUaS mentioned (as a form of branding) ...

Naked Harbin Ethnography in the CreateSpace eBookstore
https://www.createspace.com/6072369

- Author gets twice the amount of royalties if you order "Naked Harbin Ethnography" through the CreateSpace eBookstore - https://www.createspace.com/6072369 - than through A, for example.
See, here, too: http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html.

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Here's a list of the EU member states and when they joined (https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/countries_en):

Austria (1995)
Belgium (1958)
Bulgaria (2007)
Croatia (2013)
Cyprus (2004)
Czech Republic (2004)
Denmark (1973)
Estonia (2004)
Finland (1995)
France (1958)
Germany (1958)
Greece (1981)
Hungary (2004)
Ireland (1973)
Italy (1958)
Latvia (2004)
Lithuania (2004)
Luxembourg (1958)
Malta (2004)
Netherlands (1958)
Poland (2004)
Portugal (1986)
Romania (2007)
Slovakia (2004)
Slovenia (2004)
Spain (1986)
Sweden (1995)
United Kingdom (1973)


And here are the

America / USA Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/

Canada Amazon .ca
https://www.amazon.ca/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474058490&sr=8-1&keywords=Naked+Harbin+ethnography


I do best if people get my book - and it would be a great GIFT book - through the CreateSpace eBookstore!


... my Harbin book is probably in all 26 or countries' Amazon bookstores in the EU that use the Euro, as well as the UK and Norway which don't use the Euro (but not yet translated) ... all good models for my big project (WUaS)'s planned online bookstores in each countries' main and official languages with Academic Presses in countries' main languages and with machine translation. 

And here are the online Bookstores I've found which carry it, in many, many countries -  

In the EU:

France Amazon.fr 

Germany Amazon.de 

Italian Amazon.it
https://www.amazon.it/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474059125&sr=8-1&keywords=naked+harbin+ethnography

Spain Amazon.es
https://www.amazon.es/Naked-Harbin-Ethnography-Counterculture-Clothing-Optionality/dp/0692646132/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474058400&sr=8-1&keywords=Naked+Harbin+Ethnography

UK Amazon.co.uk


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Outside the EU ...

Russia Amazon.ru
http://russia-amazon.ru/amazon_us/item/0692646132

https://www.amazon.co.jp - but couldn't find my book

See, too - https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201074230

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http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html

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Acampe: India World University and School, planned in Hindi, MIT Professor Anant Agarwal and Ankit Khandelwal, Could WUaS eventually hire 1 million people in all 8000 languages - where 700,000 of these are students working 10 hours per week in each of all countries?, If ways open, and CC WUaS can begin to offer CC MIT OCW-centric accrediting university and high school degrees in India for free (CC) first in English and eventually in Hindi and potentially other languages in India, would you like to explore offering your Zero Cost MBA (the MIT OCW part especially) as part of WUaS in English and in Hindi, as part of this WUaS accreditation (with probably WASC senior, which accredits Stanford and Berkeley +) process?

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Namaste, Ankit, 

Thanks for these articles about your great and interesting engagements with online learning - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nricontributeprofile/11738643.cms - and - http://ocw.mit.edu/about/ocw-stories/ankit-khandelwal/. I've looked through the links you sent as well.


- What worlduniversity actually want to achieve? How different is it from University of People, or platforms like Saylor.org in providing education?

WUaS seeks a matriculating class of possibly 2000 highest achieving (smart) undergraduate students from all ~206 nations in the world in autumn 2017 for a free, CC MIT OCW-centric Bachelor's degree (who would take 36 and finish MIT/Yale courses over 4 years) from their homes (as if applying, getting into Harvard/MIT, and getting a degree from), and then in the following years WUaS students for Ph.D, law and MD, as well as I.B. high school diplomas in the following years, first in English - and eventually in Hindi at wiki India World University and School - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/India

Besides these degrees in all ~206 countries' main languages - "WUaS Harvards/Stanfords of the Web in each country" - WUaS plans to create Wiki schools in all 7943+ languages (and as markets on the for-profit side - per the 14 Planned WUaS Revenue Streams). 400 matriculating committed students from India - with developing links with the India and Ministry of Education and other governmental educational departments in India - would be great. (Here's a blog post from today outlining where WUaS is with developing our new wiki in MediaWiki/Wikidata - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/bengal-tiger-wuas-in-mediawiki-and.html - as well as with links to MIT OCW and Yale OYC). WUaS plans to offer courses from MIT OCW and Yale OYC with graduate students in group video teaching to the the MIT and Yale faculty.


- Can you elaborate your question related to speaking with Anant Agarwal? You can check the actual article here: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nricontributeprofile/11738643.cms

I was just curious about whether you knew him / of Anant Agarwal. He also knows the educational landscape of India - from a MIT / Stanford perspective, for example. He's also an example of a highest achieving student and professor (at MIT - and very smart, and great:) - and a professor of a MIT OCW course as well. Ideally WUaS would seek students from India somehow like him.

- And last but not the least, can you clarify on what do you want from me?

What WUaS would like from you is to become a WUaS "Program Coordinator" in India re getting student applicants, and currently for this sign in form - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/ - and eventually as if students were applying to MIT or Stanford from India ... (like Anant Agarwal did) ... and then for some of these students to matriculate (become officially enrolled) as WUaS accredits with WASC senior in California (and pays accreditation fees to WASC).

WUaS seeks to offer accrediting free CC MIT university degrees online to students in India, and grow as an organization (could WUaS eventually hire 1 million people in all 8000 languages - where 700,000 of these are students working 10 hours per week in each of all countries? That's a goal). WUaS will be a second semester pro bono "client" beginning this Sunday in a UC Berkeley "New Business Practicum" course to file probably the for-profit papers.

Thanks for video conferencing, and your great project as well. 

Regards, Scott

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Hi Ankit, 

Thanks again for your email, and thanks. I may inquire with Anant Agarwal, President of edX too, about further WUaS-MIT collaboration possibilities. (I've heard back positively from the MIT Media Lab about a tenure track junior faculty position I've applied for, and I'd like to begin this teaching position from the SF Bay Area on January 1, 2017, if possible). If ways open, and CC WUaS can begin to offer CC MIT OCW-centric accrediting university and high school degrees in India for free (CC) first in English and eventually in Hindi and potentially other languages in India, would you like to explore offering your Zero Cost MBA (the MIT OCW part especially) as part of WUaS in English and in Hindi, as part of this WUaS accreditation (with probably WASC senior, which accredits Stanford and Berkeley +) process? 

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Scutelleridae: Open "Naked Harbin Ethnography" book from 15 ft cubed augmented reality "LIBRARY" around you from BATH TUB & enter Harbin warm pool~culture?, "Naked Harbin Ethnography" available on the Kindle in a week! How will this emerge in 15 ft cubed augmented Library or Museum or Harbin warm pool AROUND YOU?

Next: Virginia Ctenucha moth: Curious about QUALITY and Stanford and no money-money questions, WUaS would like to bring highest quality education - and culture or discourse - into people's homes (and while helping economically), Here's a definition of quality "the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something" (Apple dictionary), E just bought a paper copy of my Harbin ethnographic book - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook - I'm glad to say, and from CreateSpace eBookstore - https://www.createspace.com/6072369 - with the best author "royalties," Following up with the MIT Media Lab teaching position application - with my updated CV with my Harbin book, making it clear too that it's published in a new Academic Press at said big project planned in all 7,943 languages with machine translation - and planned with a universal translator. :)
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http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Virtual_Worlds

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Curious about quality and Stanford and no money-money questions. Many cultures have or have had no money but much quality. Stanford seems to have much quality and more so than Berkeley, but both each probably have their very "high" quality aspects and "lower" quality aspects. My big project (WUaS)  would like to bring highest quality education - and culture or discourse - into people's homes (and while helping economically) and differentiate money-related (good) quality from quality re ideas and thinking - and with highest quality intellectual, scientific, as well as caring, culture idea-wise. More about quality later perhaps ... but here's a definition "the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something" (Apple dictionary).


E just bought a paper copy of my Harbin ethnographic book - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook - I'm glad to say, and from CreateSpace eBookstore - https://www.createspace.com/6072369 - with the best author "royalties." And L just recently opened up some piping lessons spots yesterday, Sunday, right before the opening brunch at UC Berkeley Prof. B K's house for his "New Business Practicum" course - and re my big project for a 2nd semester in a row. And I haven't yet heard back from S.L. - and don't know about piping "energy/communications" but wonder about this here with L's first ever Sunday online lesson opportunity, and he's still in the US having been last week in Colorado, playing with the Tannahill Weavers - when I had a lesson with him.


Think I'll follow up with the MIT Media Lab - with my updated CV with my Harbin book, making it clear too that it's published in a new Academic Press at said big project planned in all 7,943 languages with machine translation - and planned with a universal translator.  :)
Keeping with this threads' name "MIT and related," I'd like to begin the MIT Media Lab teaching position from out here on January 1, 2017.

Hoping my long-ish emails are a little enjoyable and edifying, M. 

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Thanks very much for your engagement with my ideas at WUaS and thanks too for your straightforwardness. Welcome home, as well! :) I just came back from the opening brunch yesterday in the Professor's home in a UC Berkeley law class called "New Business Practicum" for a second semester, where we'll further seek to get WUaS operating financially and legally.

I'll read your ideas partly in terms of reaching out to 17 year olds for free CC MIT OCW-centric undergraduate Bachelor's degrees from their homes in all ~206 nations and their countries (per this last Olympics).

Quaker education is old, international and can support, as a culture, dissent in the name of conscience and for peace, and re a kind of meditation process via the silent Meeting process which is central to Friends. When I studied in Munich in 1981-1982, there was a Quaker physicist family (he worked at the Max Planck Institute), who were central to the little Quaker Meeting group there (and I eventually lived with them for 2 1/2 months in their home in Garching, north of Munich) who, as an example of conscience, later, after the Chernobyl nuclear accident occurred, and with a group of concerned scientists, bought a very expensive piece of radiation measuring equipment (at their own expense) and documented the significant nuclear fallout in the Bavarian countryside from Chernobyl - and published a scientific paper with these results - and for this the Quaker physicist himself, E.K., was blacklisted and lost his job. (And Germany is planning be nuclear-free by 2022). While WUaS seeks to become the "Harvards of the Web" in each of all countries' main and official languages, the kind of Quaker values and "witnessing to the truth," I'd say, that inform such good science, in this instance, have been part of F/friendly-informed WUaS from its inception. 

I'm glad to say I've just published my first book in a new Academic Press at World University and School (planned in all 7,943 languages with machine translation) - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook ... :)

I'll respond directly to some of your ideas in-line below. 

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I hope WUaS's communications can become more straightforward for 17 year olds, as we grow as an online top-tier all-languages university and school - informed by MIT, Harvard and Stanford - for example. 

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On the degree side, as our communication and especially our web site develop newly in MediaWiki and Wikidata (written for Wikipedia's 358 languages), it will become like applying to MIT, Harvard and Stanford - but gradually as we seek to build our matriculating classes with 17 year olds from many countries who may not be familiar with applying to American universities for bachelor, Ph.D., law and M.D. degrees, as well as applying for I.B. high school positions. 

On the wiki side, anyone will be able to edit WUaS, like in Wikipedia; this is a relatively low barrier to entrance, and where anyone in a sense can become a teacher as well (e.g. by teaching to their web camera and posting it to a wiki page). 

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Yes, Wikia isn't great ... hence we've long been seeking to develop in a Wikipedia / Wikidata platform; we also don't yet have a head of I.T. or any coders to speak of.

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For matriculated students, the ideas they engage will be the CC MIT OCW courses in 7 languages and the CC Yale OYC. 

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Thanks for your feedback about my writing. I post a blog every day, and I just published my first book - so there is a lot of writing. I would think that some of it is more understandable than others, per your observations.  

Ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy, a new method I'm developing, will indeed add to the complexity. 


Communication clarity in complexity will be especially interesting as WUaS develops a universal translator building on Google Translate with Wikpedia's Content Translation - and in all 7,943 languages. 


Hopefully a new wiki and the focus on MIT OCW and Yale OYC in MIT group video UnHangouts will make WUaS clearer for 17 year old applicants. 


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Hopefully our new web site with Wikidata as a back end with its A.I. machine learning and machine translation will happen at the Wikimedia Foundations' WikiDevelopers conference in SF in early January. We got a new MediaWiki WUaS working in English and German on January 6, 2016 at the WMF Developers' conference in SF, but it wasn't in Wikidata too, and it stopped working in March, due to a bug in the MediaWiki software. Examples of these first new pages are in Archive.org and in my blog.

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Here's the general idea for Wikidata and infrastructure - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/bengal-tiger-wuas-in-mediawiki-and.html - and because WUaS is such a big project, and we donated WUaS to Wikidata last autumn 2015, and they don't have infrastructure yet to develop this, and WUaS doesn't have any coders, having no money, I think the WUaS web site will become clearer when some of this changes. 

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Thanks for your helpful, constructive, supportive, engaged and direct feedback. Your English is excellent, Martin. Looking forward to further conversation about this over time. 

Friendly regards, 
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I should add that the Conference Method - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_Method_of_Teaching_and_Learning - (like Reed College's approach) in group video MIT UnHangouts will be central to WUaS pedagogical model. (This is in my long blog as well). 

I posted some of my replies to your feedback, but not your email here today - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/aglais-io-responding-to-feedback-about.html. Blogging daily, much about WUaS, helps to let some folks, possibly (not really sure who reads my blog actually) ,know where WUaS is heading. Hope this post is ok.

All the best, 
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Orchid Bee (Euglossini): WUaS alluded to in this MIT Professor's talk :) - " Engineering Revolutions | Edward Boyden," See too - "Ed Boyden: Neuroengineering - The Future is Now," Training for working/teaching in the anti-disciplinary MIT Media Lab?, Well, my Harbin book is available now on the Kindle in eBook form and on ANY device ... for $25 - (without the 22 page 8.5 x 11 index) ... which link you'll find here ~ http://amazon.com/author/scottmacleodworlduniversity ...

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How are you?

Check out the slide in this video at the 15:55 minute mark - https://youtu.be/18jZDVuiAOM?t=15m55s - bringing together a) universities (some 800 years old) which don't scale very well (per Ed) WITH b) for-profit tax forms (e.g. per Ed, corporations can scale huge very well, but are may be less open than academic settings) WITH c) non profit organizations can scale better than Academics per Ed, and maybe have different time horizons than for-profits - all in one slide  ... 
Engineering Revolutions | Edward Boyden
World Economic Forum, in Davos, Switzerland, published on Feb 19, 2016 ...

     Engineering Revolutions | Edward Boyden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18jZDVuiAOM (which is one of many interesting videos in an interesting and instructive article about MIT Professor Ed Boyden
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ed-boyden-how-to-think_us_57d6b584e4b03d2d459b4b50 _ which I will learn a lot from if and when I get the MIT Media Lab junior faculty position.
Training for working/teaching at MIT? ... Start using my calendar more ... and also record conversations on paper as I collaborate with each person of many many at MIT and in Cambridge, and give them a conversation summary - physically on paper - after photographing it with my smart phone per this article and practice above.
Another talk about neuroengineering from Ed Boyden 

Ed Boyden: Neuroengineering - The Future is Now   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no4TorsvYn4 - and re my big project's virtual earth modeling plans, and at the cellular and atomic levels.


Well, my Harbin book is available now on the Kindle in eBook form and on ANY device ... for $25 - (without the 22 page 8.5 x 11 index ...) ... which link you'll find here - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/polka-dot-wasp-moth-syntomeida-epilais.html


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The MIT OpenCourseWare Daily

a) MIT is not affiliated with, and does not endorse, World University and School b) MIT does not offer credit to WUaS students, and c) All MIT OpenCourseWare materials are available for free
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The World University and School Daily

a) MIT is not affiliated with, and does not endorse, World University and School b) MIT does not offer credit to WUaS students, and c) All MIT OpenCourseWare materials are available for free
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Sacred lotus: WUaS's Questions in the WMF Languages' Engineering Team, World Univ & Sch questions W, Sep 21 re WMF Language Engineering Team & ContentTranslation, Thank you, Runa and team, for the opportunity to ask these questions! How best to grow the WMF Languages' engineering team and professional translation, for example, out of MediaWiki Content Translation?

Next: American lotus: How flourishingly to JOIN, NETWORK, CONNECT Stanford, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cal, Oxbridge + in one big learning jam session? WIKI All Langs' World University and School! ... Anthropology of Stanford religion re Memorial church? https://events.stanford.edu/events/609/60991/ … In 2016? What memes come thru & post 1960s? Anglo Communion?, Beautiful, serene, organ music, wondrous open religious building - and Helps poor? Held a Friends' Meeting here, Tweeting ethnographically, "Naked Harbin Ethnography" FREE bookmarks, Could these Universities connect flourishingly also through their offices for religious life, but now online?, Probably easier and better through generating an online culture of learning, and conversation about science, in group video Hangouts, e.g. Google group video Hangouts, and in MIT group video UnHangouts (for example, in countries where Google doesn't have access)
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Probably easier and better through generating an online culture of learning, and conversation about science, in group video Hangouts, e.g. Google group video Hangouts, and in MIT group video UnHangouts (for example, in countries where Google doesn't have access).

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Nymphaea: Making music so that Scottish Country dancers soar on it, Scottish small pipe-able which is fun too, May explore as I begin my second Harbin book and virtual earth / virtual brain, revisiting and revising my first book with ... Heartsong ... at Harbin, kind of per Harvard's John Palfrey and Urs Gasser's recent revisions of their 2008 book "Born Digital," WUaS alluded to in this MIT Professor's talk :) ... New @HarbinBook TWITTER Profile - https://twitter.com/HarbinBook

Previous: American lotus: How flourishingly to JOIN, NETWORK, CONNECT Stanford, Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cal, Oxbridge + in one big learning jam session? WIKI All Langs' World University and School! ... Anthropology of Stanford religion re Memorial church? https://events.stanford.edu/events/609/60991/ … In 2016? What memes come thru & post 1960s? Anglo Communion?, Beautiful, serene, organ music, wondrous open religious building - and Helps poor? Held a Friends' Meeting here, Tweeting ethnographically, "Naked Harbin Ethnography" FREE bookmarks, Could these Universities connect flourishingly also through their offices for religious life, but now online?, Probably easier and better through generating an online culture of learning, and conversation about science, in group video Hangouts, e.g. Google group video Hangouts, and in MIT group video UnHangouts (for example, in countries where Google doesn't have access)
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See you soon, and thanks for the beautiful music ... curious where and how we can go "furthur" with it, and make music so that Scottish Country dancers soar on it !

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Off to play SCD music tonight - keyboards since my arm is still healing - and for longer than usual for this little SCD band (not http://twitter.com/TheOpenBand, perhaps in preparation for playing at SCD monthly parties.

I do better with getting to bed by 11pm neurophysiology-wise (my own, subjectively experienced), yet this SCD music making with people is enjoyable and we just added an hour possibly on Fridays of playing (some musicians were tired/miffed/disgruntled) for 3 hours of playing. We're the Bees, I think. But this may also be practice for playing at long-ish monthly SCD parties too. SCD music can be a kind of ear candy to me. And many of the tunes in the SCD pink and blue book are Scottish small pipe-able which is fun too.

I may explore as I begin my second Harbin book and virtual earth / virtual brain, revisiting and revising my first book with  Heartsong at Harbin, kind of per Harvard's John Palfrey and Urs Gasser's recent revisions of their 2008 book "Born Digital"https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/779335612230950912 . Heartsong is amazing, very smart and a friend who's been a resident at Harbin since 1980. Here's a new Harbin book mark - https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/779465734518779904.

New @HarbinBook TWITTER Profile - https://twitter.com/HarbinBook ... 

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[09:50] <Scott_WUaS> Lydia (Lydia_WMDE or Nightrose) and Lea (LeaAuregann_WMDE or Auregann),   I'm hoping to attend the Wikimedia Developers' conference SF in the first week of January, and it would be great if Ryan Kaldari and Jan Zerebecki (if he attends this year with the Wikidata team) could again re-install World University and School in MediaWiki as well as connect it with the Wikidata newly. Would this be possible please, Lydia and Lea (and re this blog entry http://scott-macleod
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[09:51] <Scott_WUaS> Great
[09:51] <Nightrose> in addition to the things linked in the task above the folling is coming:
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[09:52] <Scott_WUaS> (Lydia, Could we email further directly for a little planning in the interim, please? )
[09:52] <Nightrose> Stas has worked on unit conversion for the query service. that should be coming in the next weeks for the first units
[09:52] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: of course
[09:52] <Scott_WUaS> Thank you! :)
[09:53] <Nightrose> and most importantly for the next quarter: we'll be celebrating Wikidata's 4th birthday! \o/
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[09:53] <dachary> :-)
[09:53] <Nightrose> (now is the time to think about presents :P)
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[09:53] <WikidataFacts> would this unit conversion make constructs like inhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Objects_with_most_mass obsolete? or simplify them somehow?
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[09:54] <Nightrose> WikidataFacts: it would simplify them in that you can then search for them in one unit instead of having to look at all mass units
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[09:54] <Nightrose> you will then have everything in kg for example and order that
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[09:54] <Scott_WUaS> This is the part of my text from 9:50 which got cut off, for the office hour record, Lydia and Lea (and re this blog entry http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/bengal-tiger-wuas-in-mediawiki-and.html ). And how might we best explore this further? Thank you.)
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[09:54] <WikidataFacts> that’s what that example attempts to do as well, ?mass is always in kilograms
[09:55] <Nightrose> ok then i don't think it'll change much for this one
[09:55] <Nightrose> but it will make queries easier for the things where you have a lot of different units like km, miles, feet and so on
[09:56] <Nightrose> a query for the longest rivers for example
[09:56] <WikidataFacts> is there some link where I can find out more about this? :)
[09:56] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: i'll have a look :)
[09:57] <Nightrose> WikidataFacts: the ticket about it. let me try to find it.
[09:57] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: if I understand your SPARQL code correctly, unit conversion *would* make that a lot simpler.
[09:57] <WikidataFacts> DanielK_WMDE_: it does the conversion “manually” using P2370 conversion to SI unit
[09:57] <Scott_WUaS> (Nightrose: And I'll email you something more up to date and specific. Thanks, Lydia!)
[09:57] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: you would not need to look at the unit item at all. YOur baseMass would already be in kg.
[09:57] <WikidataFacts> Nightrose: great, thanks
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[09:59] <Nightrose> more questions?
[09:59] <Nightrose> birthday ideas?
[09:59] <Nightrose> :D
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[09:59] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: you would use wdv instead of wdt - that's it (i hope i didn't get the prefix wrong, this is off the top of my head...(
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[09:59] <Scott_WUaS> :))
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[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: yea, no manual conversion needed any more, we'll do that during RDF export
[10:00] <WikidataFacts> DanielK_WMDE_: that sounds awesome, thanks
[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> we use different prefixes for the normalized and the original value
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[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> :)
[10:00] <hweyl> I'm giving a talk (and serving cupcakes in the outline of the wikidata logo) at Yale Univ. Libraries for the birthday!
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[10:00] <Nightrose> hweyl: excellent!
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[10:00] <Nightrose> hweyl: add it to the events page if it is open to the public?
[10:01] <hweyl> sure!
[10:01] <Scott_WUaS> In conjunction with the WMF language engineering team, who at Wikidata might specifically working on ontologies for translation in Wikidata?
[10:01] <Scott_WUaS> *be
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[10:01] <Nightrose> no-one on the development team is
[10:02] <Nightrose> and i am not sure if anyone is working on it on the data side
[10:02] <Scott_WUaS> I'm wondering how best to focus related data questions and overall trajectories in these regards.
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[10:03] <hweyl> nightrose: sigh, it is not public. I have proposals in for 2 others that will be public, will add to events if they are accepted
[10:03] <Nightrose> cool
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[10:03] <Scott_WUaS> Especially with computational linguists developing Wikidata for translation and in a myriad of other directions, technically and end user wise, and for professional translation.
[10:03] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: in a wiki project. i would check if one exists for languages already
[10:04] <Auregann> About the birthday, I will collect some short stories about cool things you do on Wikidata, things you're proud of, and so on :) If you have something to tell, please contact me!
[10:04] <DanielK_WMDE_> Scott_WUaS: our model is (roughly) based on the LEMON ontology. Any higher level modelling will be left to the community - as always, Wikimedia will stay out of content decisions. I expect there will be a lot of on-wiki discussions regarding what aspects of lexical information to model how, once we have Lexeme entities.
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[10:05] <DanielK_WMDE_> So, check back in a year.
[10:05] <Scott_WUaS> OK ... it's the overall structure of Content Translation and related in terms of Wikidata developments ... thanks DanielK_WMDE_ and Nightrose Lydia_WMDE_
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[10:05] <hweyl> would an extension like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticHistory for SMW ever be something Wikidata might do?
[10:06] <Nightrose> what does it do?
[10:06] <DanielK_WMDE_> Scott_WUaS: ContentTranslation, the MediaWiki extension? That's unrelated.
[10:06] <Scott_WUaS> Thanks for the clarification, Daniel_WMDE_
[10:07] <Scott_WUaS> Wikidata modeling for professional machine translation, among a myriad of other language and translation development questions, will be a fascinating set of Wikidata developments.
[10:08] <Scott_WUaS> Happy 4th birthday, Wikidata
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[09:00] <Lydia_WMDE> Hey everyone :)
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[09:01] <matej_suchanek> Hi!!!
[09:01] <dennyvrandecic> hi! :)
[09:01] <Lydia_WMDE> who is here for the office hour
[09:01] <dennyvrandecic> o/
[09:01] <matej_suchanek> Me!!
[09:01] <hweyl> hi, Lydia! I'm here for Wikidata office hour!
[09:01] <Lydia_WMDE> Yay! :)
[09:01] <Lydia_WMDE> nice
[09:01] Ainali is here for that
[09:02] <dachary> I'm here too
[09:02] <LeaAuregann_WMDE> Hello :)
[09:02] JustMe_ listening :-)
[09:02] <Lydia_WMDE> so i wanted to give an overview of what happened over the last 3 months and then see what is coming next
[09:02] <Lydia_WMDE> but first of all I want to introduce LeaAuregann_WMDE
[09:03] <matej_suchanek> 👍
[09:03] <LeaAuregann_WMDE> Yay \o/
[09:03] <Lydia_WMDE> she joined the team to handle the community communication around Wikidata
[09:03] <Lydia_WMDE> and I'm really happy to have her on board. that should help with me not having enough time to handle product management and communication
[09:03] <Ainali> So LeaAuregann_WMDE will run these office hours later on?
[09:04] <Lydia_WMDE> yes ;-)
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[09:04] <Ainali> 👍
[09:04] <Lydia_WMDE> though i'll be around of course to support and answer all of your hairy questions ;-)
[09:04] <LeaAuregann_WMDE> If you're OK with that :-)
[09:05] <Lydia_WMDE> alright then let's see where we are and what happend over the past 3 months
[09:05] <Lydia_WMDE> right now we have over 16000 editors with more than one edit over the last 30 days
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[09:05] <Lydia_WMDE> and around 1230 with more than 100
[09:05] <Lydia_WMDE> I am really happy about that
[09:06] <Scott_WUaS> Hi Lydia - yes, I am!
[09:06] <Lydia_WMDE> and we have about 24 million items with 15 statements on average
[09:06] <Scott_WUaS> Hello Lea!
[09:06] <Lydia_WMDE> also not too shabby ;-)
[09:07] <Scott_WUaS> Great, Lydia!
[09:07] <Lydia_WMDE> a lot has happened since the last office hour. i'll surely forget some important things but you can add things if they come to your mind
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[09:08] <Lydia_WMDE> we've done interviews and so on to get a better understanding of how automated list generation should work with Wikidata. you can see more on that at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input and give more feedback
[09:08] <Lydia_WMDE> feedback especially from wikipedia editors who work on lists would be extremely valuable
[09:09] <Lydia_WMDE> the other big thing is that we are currently in the final steps of getting reviews and feedback for how we are going to model lexicographical data on Wikidata
[09:09] <Lydia_WMDE> this is basically support for Wiktionary
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[09:09] <Lydia_WMDE> you can find the proposal on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary
[09:10] <Lydia_WMDE> i'm quite excited about being able to support this kind of data as well because it opens up so many more opportunities for both Wiktionary and Wikidata
[09:11] bawolff thinks that sounds a lot like OmegaWiki...
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[09:11] <Lydia_WMDE> bawolff: not quite but if you are familiar with it it would be great to get your feedback on the proposal
[09:11] <Scott_WUaS> (Thanks for the update re lexicographical data - curious how many different ways of structuring Wikidata further will inform different options for translation between any 2 given languages - e.g. how will pairing phrases, beyond pairing lexemes work?)
[09:11] <bawolff> I'm not particularly familiar with OmegaWiki, I mean more from a "goals" perspective
[09:11] <Lydia_WMDE> *nod*
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[09:12] <Lydia_WMDE> another area we've been spending more time on is the ArticlePlaceholder
[09:12] <bawolff> For that matter, I'm not particularly familar with Wiktionary either
[09:12] <Lydia_WMDE> we've fixed a lot of bugs and rolled it out on Kannada and Welsh Wikipedia as well
[09:12] <Lydia_WMDE> bawolff: ok fair enough
[09:13] <bawolff> But it might be cool to have a FAQ entry comparing and contrasting it to OmegaWiki for people like me who just vaugely know what the two projects are :)
[09:13] <Lydia_WMDE> yeah that makes sense
[09:14] <bawolff> But I did once try to write a screen scraper for extracting definitions from wiktionary
[09:14] <bawolff> Which was an utterly miserable experiance
[09:14] <Lydia_WMDE> heh yeah i can imagine
[09:14] <bawolff> And I mean utterly misearable (part of the problem was technology choice, but only part)
[09:14] <Lydia_WMDE> that should hopefully become easier
[09:15] <bawolff> So more machine readability would be nice
[09:16] <dachary> Lydia_WMDE: could you please remind us the URL of the work done on ArticlePlaceholder ?
[09:16] <Lydia_WMDE> dachary: do you want to see one?
[09:16] <dachary> yeah :-)
[09:16] <Lydia_WMDE> ok one sec
[09:17] <dachary> thanks !
[09:18] <Lydia_WMDE> one thing that _a lot_ of people have been complaining about is that we add +-1 to quantities a lot of times. we've been trying to figure out a solution and i think we have it now. i need to still find the time to write it up and get you all something for testing. hope to get that done in the next month
[09:18] <Lydia_WMDE> dachary: yes
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[09:18] <dachary> very cool
[09:18] <Lydia_WMDE> :)
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[09:19] <Lydia_WMDE> we've also improved our browser tests so that hopefully less bugs ever find the way to your eyes ;-)
[09:19] <Lydia_WMDE> (famous last words, i know)
[09:20] <Lydia_WMDE> another huge thing from the last 3 months is that we finally were able to release the first prototype for support for Wikimedia Commons
[09:20] <matej_suchanek> 👍
[09:20] <Lydia_WMDE> there is still a lot of work to be done before we can get anything live on Commons but this was a huge milestone
[09:21] <dennyvrandecic> dare any time estimates? ;)
[09:21] <Lydia_WMDE> shush dennyvrandecic  ;-)
[09:21] <dennyvrandecic> *hiding in corner*
[09:21] <Lydia_WMDE> awwwww
[09:22] <Lydia_WMDE> nah i really don't know
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[09:22] <Lydia_WMDE> right now we are working on federation as a next step
[09:22] <Lydia_WMDE> this basically means we enable you to use the items and properties from Wikidata to make statements on commons
[09:22] <Lydia_WMDE> this is big task number 2
[09:23] <dennyvrandecic> puh. Federation could have meant so much more... Glad it is so restricted to the task at hand :)
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> big task number 3 is multi-content-revisions in order to integrate the statements in the file page
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> haha
[09:23] <Scott_WUaS> (Cool translation from Welsh to English pour moi using info boxes it would seem - https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbennig:AboutTopic/Q2673 ! )
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> once we have those 3 things in place we have the bare minumum
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> and then we need integration in all the existing tools and workflows
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> search for example
[09:23] <Lydia_WMDE> and upload wizard
[09:24] <Lydia_WMDE> but we'll get there
[09:24] <Lydia_WMDE> and then we'll have an even more amazing Commons
[09:24] <Lydia_WMDE> \o/
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[09:25] <Lydia_WMDE> more artsy things: our designer worked on new graphics for the data model as well as infographics for data flows and quality processes. you can find them here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikidata_information_materials
[09:25] <Ainali> Will we use query.wikidata.org to get things in commons?
[09:25] <Lydia_WMDE> might be useful for you at events or for talks
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[09:26] <Lydia_WMDE> Ainali: unclear still. i definitely want people to be able to query wikidata data and commons data at the same time
[09:26] <Lydia_WMDE> how exactly that will look we'll have to see
[09:26] <Lydia_WMDE> speaking of query service. that also got some love.
[09:27] <Lydia_WMDE> we now have map layers and show categories in the example queries so you can more easily find what you are looking for
[09:27] <Lydia_WMDE> in queries you now also have access to page prop information like the number of sitelinks and statements on an item
[09:28] <Lydia_WMDE> so you can easily query for items with at least 10 wikipedia articles about a given topic area
[09:28] <dennyvrandecic> (I am off for now - thanks, will read up later)
[09:28] <Lydia_WMDE> cya
[09:29] <LeaAuregann_WMDE> also, the queries examples have been moved to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples
[09:29] <Lydia_WMDE> indeed!
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[09:29] <LeaAuregann_WMDE> so if you have examples to add, please add it there
[09:29] <Scott_WUaS> See you, Denny! :)
[09:29] <Lydia_WMDE> we've also made a bunch of usability improvements like better error messages
[09:30] <Lydia_WMDE> when you add a new statement now you also get a message saying no item or property was found for your input if we don't have something in Wikidata
[09:31] <Lydia_WMDE> we also reviewed and improved everything around calendar models. adam ran a bot to mark dates that will need to be reviewed because they might have a wrong calendar model. this sometimes happened because our UI was bad and people were confused
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[09:32] <dachary> how are they marked ?
[09:32] <Lydia_WMDE> they have a qualifier
[09:32] <dachary> ok
[09:32] <Lydia_WMDE> i can later look up the exact items

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[09:39] <Nightrose> sorry - Lydia here
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[09:39] <Nightrose> it seems I got kicked out with my other account
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[09:39] <Nightrose> here is what I typed last:
[09:39] <Nightrose> i can later look up the exact items
[09:39] <Nightrose> there is now also a gadget that sorts the statements on an item according to a global list of properties. this should give some uniformity to all items. people complained a lot about statements having no meaningful order. i'd like more feedback on the gadget and then implement it properly for everyone.
[09:39] <Nightrose> two other gadgets that are new: one that shows you a map in a diff with a geocoordinate. the other one adds a "date retrieved" with today's date when adding a reference
[09:39] <Nightrose> feedback on those would also be helpful to see which of those we should spend time on implementing properly in the software
[09:39] <Nightrose> for monolingual text values we added a number of new languages
[09:39] <Nightrose> and we added the description of an item in its html header. this way they should show up with a better description in search engines
[09:40] <Nightrose> we've also written a stable interface policy to better communicate what breaking changes are for us and how they are announced:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Stable_Interface_Policy
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[09:40] <Nightrose> and we've added usage tracking information to the page information. So when you click on "page information" in the sidebar on wikidata or wikipedia you should soon see which items are used on a wikipedia article and which wikipedias make use of the data in an item
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[09:40] <Nightrose> i hope that gives people useful information when deleting items for example
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[09:40] <Scott_WUaS> Hi Lydia again :)
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[09:40] <Lydia_WMDE> :D
[09:40] <Lydia_WMDE> technology is conspiring against me and Lea
[09:40] <Lydia_WMDE> anyway
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[09:41] <Lydia_WMDEhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Data_quality_framework_for_Wikidata is another important thing in my opinion
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[09:41] <Lydia_WMDE> Alessandro has spent some time with the dev team to work on the RfC in order to better understand what quality means on wikidata
[09:41] <Lydia_WMDE> and then see how we can assess it
[09:42] <Lydia_WMDE> we now have a page to request queries: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Request_a_query
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[09:42] <Lydia_WMDE> and there is a sunday query thing going on on twitter where you can ask for people to help you write cool queries
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[09:45] <Scott_WUaS> Request a query is a great development
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[09:48] <Nightrose> that gives you an idea of which property proposals need input
[09:48] <Nightrose> another milestone: the Persondata template on English Wikipedia is gone in favor of Wikidata
[09:48] <Nightrose> \o/
[09:48] <Nightrose> it provided machine readable data for people
[09:48] <Nightrose> and the Freebase API was now also shut down
[09:48] <Nightrose> this tutorial on how to write infoboxes with wikidata also seems really useful and could probably use some more love and spreading:https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Infobox_Tutorial
[09:48] <Nightrose> as well as these grant proposals related to Wikidata that are currently under review:
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[09:48] <Nightrose> alright
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[09:48] <Nightrose> that is it for the review :D
[09:48] <Nightrose> questions on that or should we move on to what's coming next?
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[09:48] <Auregann> seems that we encounter some problems with freenode, sorry for that ;)
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[09:49] <Nightrose> for this quarter i tried putting the big things i want the team to work on into one task on phabricator so you can more easily follow it:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146637
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[09:50] <Nightrose> the biggest things we'll be working on is federation for Commons and automated sitelinks and the first new entity type (like items and properties) for Wiktionary
[09:50] <Scott_WUaS> Lydia (Lydia_WMDE or Nightrose) and Lea (LeaAuregann_WMDE or Auregann),   I'm hoping to attend the Wikimedia Developers' conference SF in the first week of January, and it would be great if Ryan Kaldari and Jan Zerebecki (if he attends this year with the Wikidata team) could again re-install World University and School in MediaWiki as well as connect it with the Wikidata newly. Would this be possible please, Lydia and Lea (and re this blog entry http://scott-macleod
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[09:50] <Nightrose> we can certainly have a look yeah
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[09:51] <Nightrose> we don't yet know who of us exactly will be coming but should figure that out soon
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[09:51] <Scott_WUaS> Great
[09:51] <Nightrose> in addition to the things linked in the task above the folling is coming:
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[09:52] <Scott_WUaS> (Lydia, Could we email further directly for a little planning in the interim, please? )
[09:52] <Nightrose> Stas has worked on unit conversion for the query service. that should be coming in the next weeks for the first units
[09:52] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: of course
[09:52] <Scott_WUaS> Thank you! :)
[09:53] <Nightrose> and most importantly for the next quarter: we'll be celebrating Wikidata's 4th birthday! \o/
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[09:53] <dachary> :-)
[09:53] <Nightrose> (now is the time to think about presents :P)
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[09:53] <WikidataFacts> would this unit conversion make constructs like inhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:SPARQL_query_service/queries/examples#Objects_with_most_mass obsolete? or simplify them somehow?
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[09:54] <Nightrose> WikidataFacts: it would simplify them in that you can then search for them in one unit instead of having to look at all mass units
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[09:54] <Nightrose> you will then have everything in kg for example and order that
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[09:54] <Scott_WUaS> This is the part of my text from 9:50 which got cut off, for the office hour record, Lydia and Lea (and re this blog entry http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/bengal-tiger-wuas-in-mediawiki-and.html ). And how might we best explore this further? Thank you.)
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[09:54] <WikidataFacts> that’s what that example attempts to do as well, ?mass is always in kilograms
[09:55] <Nightrose> ok then i don't think it'll change much for this one
[09:55] <Nightrose> but it will make queries easier for the things where you have a lot of different units like km, miles, feet and so on
[09:56] <Nightrose> a query for the longest rivers for example
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[09:56] <WikidataFacts> is there some link where I can find out more about this? :)
[09:56] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: i'll have a look :)
[09:57] <Nightrose> WikidataFacts: the ticket about it. let me try to find it.
[09:57] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: if I understand your SPARQL code correctly, unit conversion *would* make that a lot simpler.
[09:57] <WikidataFacts> DanielK_WMDE_: it does the conversion “manually” using P2370 conversion to SI unit
[09:57] <Scott_WUaS> (Nightrose: And I'll email you something more up to date and specific. Thanks, Lydia!)
[09:57] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: you would not need to look at the unit item at all. YOur baseMass would already be in kg.
[09:57] <WikidataFacts> Nightrose: great, thanks
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[09:59] <Nightrose> more questions?
[09:59] <Nightrose> birthday ideas?
[09:59] <Nightrose> :D
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[09:59] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: you would use wdv instead of wdt - that's it (i hope i didn't get the prefix wrong, this is off the top of my head...(
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[09:59] <Scott_WUaS> :))
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[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> WikidataFacts: yea, no manual conversion needed any more, we'll do that during RDF export
[10:00] <WikidataFacts> DanielK_WMDE_: that sounds awesome, thanks
[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> we use different prefixes for the normalized and the original value
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[10:00] <DanielK_WMDE_> :)
[10:00] <hweyl> I'm giving a talk (and serving cupcakes in the outline of the wikidata logo) at Yale Univ. Libraries for the birthday!
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[10:00] <Nightrose> hweyl: excellent!
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[10:00] <Nightrose> hweyl: add it to the events page if it is open to the public?
[10:01] <hweyl> sure!
[10:01] <Scott_WUaS> In conjunction with the WMF language engineering team, who at Wikidata might specifically working on ontologies for translation in Wikidata?
[10:01] <Scott_WUaS> *be
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[10:01] <Nightrose> no-one on the development team is
[10:02] <Nightrose> and i am not sure if anyone is working on it on the data side
[10:02] <Scott_WUaS> I'm wondering how best to focus related data questions and overall trajectories in these regards.
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[10:03] <hweyl> nightrose: sigh, it is not public. I have proposals in for 2 others that will be public, will add to events if they are accepted
[10:03] <Nightrose> cool
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[10:03] <Scott_WUaS> Especially with computational linguists developing Wikidata for translation and in a myriad of other directions, technically and end user wise, and for professional translation.
[10:03] <Nightrose> Scott_WUaS: in a wiki project. i would check if one exists for languages already
[10:04] <Auregann> About the birthday, I will collect some short stories about cool things you do on Wikidata, things you're proud of, and so on :) If you have something to tell, please contact me!
[10:04] <DanielK_WMDE_> Scott_WUaS: our model is (roughly) based on the LEMON ontology. Any higher level modelling will be left to the community - as always, Wikimedia will stay out of content decisions. I expect there will be a lot of on-wiki discussions regarding what aspects of lexical information to model how, once we have Lexeme entities.
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[10:05] <DanielK_WMDE_> So, check back in a year.
[10:05] <Scott_WUaS> OK ... it's the overall structure of Content Translation and related in terms of Wikidata developments ... thanks DanielK_WMDE_ and Nightrose Lydia_WMDE_
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[10:05] <hweyl> would an extension like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticHistory for SMW ever be something Wikidata might do?
[10:06] <Nightrose> what does it do?
[10:06] <DanielK_WMDE_> Scott_WUaS: ContentTranslation, the MediaWiki extension? That's unrelated.
[10:06] <Scott_WUaS> Thanks for the clarification, Daniel_WMDE_
[10:07] <Scott_WUaS> Wikidata modeling for professional machine translation, among a myriad of other language and translation development questions, will be a fascinating set of Wikidata developments.
[10:08] <Scott_WUaS> Happy 4th birthday, Wikidata
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Water lily: New @HarbinBook TWITTER Profile - https://twitter.com/HarbinBook for “Naked Harbin Ethnography” book (in the Academic Press at WUaS), And some key Harbin book links: http://bit.ly/HarbinBook = http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html ... Amazon's author's page for Scott MacLeod World University ~ http://amazon.com/author/scottmacleodworlduniversity ... Academic Press at WUaS (planned in all 7,943 languages) ~ http://worlduniversityandschool.org/AcademicPress.html

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“Naked Harbin Ethnography” book (Academic Press at WUaS)
http://twitter.com/HarbinBook


And some key Harbin book links:

http://bit.ly/HarbinBook =
http://www.scottmacleod.com/ActualVirtualHarbinBook.html

ISBN-13 978-0692646137

- Author gets twice the amount of royalties if you order "Naked Harbin Ethnography" through the CreateSpace eBookstore - https://www.createspace.com/6072369 - than through the Amazon bookstores, - available in the U.S., Canada and in Europe + !

... https://www.createspace.com/6072369


Amazon's author's page for Scott MacLeod World University ~
http://amazon.com/author/scottmacleodworlduniversity

Academic Press at WUaS (planned in all 7,943 languages) ~
http://worlduniversityandschool.org/AcademicPress.html

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"Naked Harbin Ethnography:                
Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin"
by Scott MacLeod

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And from the Harbin Book Twitter profile  ~
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook ...









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Calopteryx: Harbin Book Readings/Signings' Schedule (updating), UC Berkeley Anthro Dept. 11/11, 2 Lake County libraries 11/5, "Naked Harbin Ethnography: Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin" by Scott MacLeod, Will learn a lot more about Harbin anthropologically in new ways in public conversations/talks/readings/signings of my Harbin book, Kinda on an e-mission to share about Harbin re "physical - o that warm water releasing meditation - or intellectual pleasure, delight, or ecstasy" :)

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Upcoming Harbin Book Release Readings/Signings' Schedule


11/5/16 Sa - Harbin book readings in Lake County (~2 hours from SF Bay Area)


11 am - Middletown, CA, public library

(21256 Washington St, Middletown, CA 95461)


2 pm - Lakeport public library

(1425 N High St, Lakeport, CA 95453)



11/11 Fr - Harbin book and tourism talk at UC Berkeley


5 pm - Gifford Room, Anthropology department, UC Berkeley


(232 Kroeber Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720)



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Hi M,
I'll learn a lot more about Harbin anthropologically in new ways in public conversations/talks/readings/signings of my Harbin book - and re a new method I'm developing and calling ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy too - about which I gave a talk at UC Berkeley last November 2015 and slides from this are here - http://bit.ly/HarbinBook - but where ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy isn't quite set up yet I.T.-wise (e.g. in Google Street View with time slider with OpenSimulator, for group building, with a robust multi-lingual WIKI, like Wikipedia, as its building blocks).

Here for example is the Lake County historical resources' page - http://www.lakecountyhistory.org/news-events/lake-county-historical-resources/ - and if I can reach out to such historical society email lists for my Nov 5 Harbin book meetings in Lake County through C, head librarian, and G, Middletown librarian, I may draw some interesting folks, in addition to Harbin people in Middletown, including different local organizations as potential book buyers and people who have been to Harbin with their own histories of being there, about which they'd like to share. The head librarian of Lake County libraries loves anything written about Lake County - including about Harbin.
I also hope Sunheart (Heartsong in my book), a friend and Harbin informant (we have some great recorded interviews), who's been at Harbin since about 1980 will accompany me on Nov 5th to both libraries (one of which in Lakeport I think is a Carnegie library, interestingly) as conversant. He's brilliant, interestingly New Agey, would bring out a very different perspective on Harbin than my book does - in conversation perhaps especially - and he might somehow interview me, or at least ask questions of me - so that I too become a Harbin informant (and he an anthropologist or at least a kind of wise man from Harbin as question asker of me - a kind of changing of roles). 

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Hi Sunheart,

Perhaps you and I can create our own conversation-consensus-reality ongoing now in a wee blather in the library in a few weeks? :) Are you up for it?  ... and mostly Harbin book related, but also re free CC MIT university outreach for Lake Countians ... 

I'm kinda on an e-mission to share about Harbin re "physical - o that warm water releasing meditation - or intellectual pleasuredelightor ecstasy" :)

Jaima, Scott




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Cherrapunji: An all 8k languages' world Univ & Sch accrediting on best CC OCW for Uni degrees & a realistic earth at Streetview, cell & nano levels: WUaS

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See this blog especially, for example ...

Language label -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/language

MIT label -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/MIT

virtual world label -
http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/search/label/virtual%20world


World University and School -
http://worlduniversityandschool.org



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Mirabilis jalapa: kinda on an e-mission to share about Harbin re "physical - o that warm water releasing meditation - or intellectual pleasure, delight, or ecstasy" :) Jaima, Scott, Curious w Harbin warm pool & blissing there, how to understand ecstasy neurophysiologically in brain w headsets, to get there in other ways?, New Harbin Book Twitter profile ~ https://twitter.com/HarbinBook

Next: Organisms at high altitude: How will data science move toward real, real time - for, for example, a) ensemble music making, and b) a realistic virtual earth e.g. for real, real time brain research at the 1) street view, 2) neuronal (cellular) and 3) nano (atomic) levels - with regard to the focus of your talk - disparate data sources?, Found Purdue's Mohammad Sadoghi's replies after his IBM Cognitive Systems (CSIG) talk to my questions above very helpful, which were something like: a) Selective integration of the whole of the system, b) Active pathways within the whole of the system, Daniel, in a related vein and conceptually, how would you model elevation change over time (e.g. in a Google Street View/Maps/Earth with TIME SLIDER, conceptually, for example) with Wikidata, building on the example you've already shared? For example if one wanted to use Wikidata to model the 9 levels or 46 sublevels of Troy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy)
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Calopteryx: Harbin Book Readings/Signings' Schedule (updating), UC Berkeley Anthro Dept. 11/11, 2 Lake County libraries 11/5, "Naked Harbin Ethnography: Hippies, Warm Pools, Counterculture, Clothing-Optionality & Virtual Harbin" by Scott MacLeod, Will learn a lot more about Harbin anthropologically in new ways in public conversations/talks/readings/signings of my Harbin book, Kinda on an e-mission to share about Harbin re "physical - o that warm water releasing meditation - or intellectual pleasure, delight, or ecstasy" :)

http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2016/09/calopteryx-harbin-book-readingssignings.html

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New Harbin Book Twitter profile ~

https://twitter.com/HarbinBook




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