Emu eggs: How best in 1 multidimensional #RealisticVirtualEarthForRobotics to combine Google StreetView with #TIMESLIDER on their servers, w #MINECRAFT for Lego on MIT's servers with #Neons as #RealisticArtificialHumans with SL for group build-ability with #Scratch each block a Lego brick? * * * "[Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project" * Am staying tuned for CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch's planned online medical schools - and online teaching hospitals - lanned in each of all ~200 nation states' official and main languages, for the practice of online medicine. (CC-4 WUaS donated itself to Wikidata in 2015 for co-development)

How best in 1 multidimensional #RealisticVirtualEarthForRobotics to combine Google StreetView with #TIMESLIDER on their servers, w #MINECRAFT for Lego on MIT's servers with #Neons as #RealisticArtificialHumans with SL for group build-ability with #Scratch each block a Lego brick?

How best in 1 multidimensional #RealisticVirtualEarthForRobotics to combine Google StreetView with #TIMESLIDER on their servers, w #MINECRAFT for Lego on MIT's servers with #Neons as #RealisticArtificialHumans with SL for group build-ability with #Scratch each block a Lego brick? https://t.co/HwIrYIlR1c

— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) April 14, 2020

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1250114087259787266?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1250115102952419328?s=20
https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1250116573915840518?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1250117356958842880?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1250115876012969984?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1250149124466339840?s=20

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[Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

Hi Denny, Markus, and Wikimedians / Wikidatans,



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[Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project


As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual
Wikipedia for a few years now. Two other publications on this are here, I
have bothered you with mails about it here previously too:

https://research.google/pubs/pub48057/

https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/vyf7ksah

I've also been giving talks about the topic in several places about this
idea, some of them have also been recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzVA7YLwhTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLiJ6E9sG6U&list=PLQVG_tuf3Q2fji-CwqEDRJpZuf23wevrq&index=13

I gathered some awesome feedback in those few years (also from some members
of this list, thank you!), and I also implemented a few prototypes trying
out the idea, learning a lot from that.

All of this has helped to sharpen the idea and come up with a more concrete
proposal. In short, the proposal is that we do a two-step approach: first,
allow for capturing Wikipedia content in an abstract notation, and second,
allow for creating functions that translate this abstract notation into
natural language (For simplicity, I gave this two steps names, Abstract
Wikipedia for step 1, and Wikilambda for step 2. I realize that both names
are not perfect, but that is just one of the many things that we can figure
out together on the way).

I wrote up this proposal in a paper, which I uploaded to my Website almost
two weeks ago, and I also submitted it to Arxiv. And as soon as it was
published on Arxiv, I wanted to share it with you and see what you folks
think (I wanted to wait for it as Arxiv would allow the URLs to remains
table - my Website has gone down before and might so again).

https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733

The new proposal is much more concrete than the previous proposals (and
therefore there is much more to criticize). Also, obviously, nothing of
this is set in stone, and just like the names, I am very much looking
forward to hear suggestions for how to improve the whole thing, and I will
blatantly steal every good idea and proposal. I am not even sure what a
good venue for this discussion is, I guess, eventually it should be on
Meta?, but also about that I would like to hear proposals.

Abstract Wikipedia is a proposed extension to Wikidata that would capture
the content next to the Wikidata items. Think of it as a new namespace,
where we could create, maintain, and collaborate on the abstract content.
Similar to the Wikidata-bridge, there should be a way to allow
contributions from the Wikipedias to flow back without too much friction.
The individual Wikipedias - and I cannot stress this enough - have the
choice to use some or any or all or none of the content from Abstract
Wikipedia, but I most definitely do not expect the content of the current
Wikipedias to be replaced by this. In fact, I have no doubt that any decent
article in any language Wikipedia will remain superior to the outcome of
the proposed new architecture by far. This is a proposal for the places
where the current system left us with gaps, not a proposal to turn the
parts that are already brilliant today dull and terrible tomorrow.

Wikilambda is a proposed new Wikimedia project that allows us to share in a
new form of knowledge assets, functions. You can think of it as similar to
Modules or Templates, but a bit extended, with places for tests, different
languages, evaluation, and also for all kind of functions, not only those
that are immediately useful for one of the Wikimedia projects, and most
importantly, shared among the projects. So one of the first goals would be
to increasingly allow fo a place to have global templates, another idea
that has been discussed and asked for for a very long time. Wikilambda,
just as Wikidata, is expected to start as a project supporting the
immediate needs of the sister projects, and over time to grow to a project
that stands on its own merits as well.

We don't really have an effective process for starting new projects, so I
am trying to follow a similar path that we took for Wikidata back then. And
back then it all started with Markus Krötzsch, me and others talking about
the idea to anyone who would listen until everyone was bored of hearing it,
trying out prototypes, and then talking about it even more, and improving
all of it constantly based on your feedback. And then making increasingly
concrete proposals until we managed to show some kind of consensus from the
communities, you, and the Foundation to actually do it. And then, well, do
it.

So, I've done some of the talking, with researchers, with the public, with
some of you, and also with folks at the Foundation, to figure out what next
steps could be, and how this can be made to work. Here's a more concrete
proposal. Now I am here to see whether we can find consensus and be bold. I
want to hear from you. I want to hear what you think what the right place
is to discuss this (here, this list? Another mailing list? Meta? Wikidata?
Some Telegram or Facebook group? (OK, I was joking about the latter)).
Which parts of the proposal are good and which need improvement? Where is
more detail or clarification needed to allow for a meaningful discussion?

Just as with Wikipedia and Wikidata and our other projects, this is a crazy
idea at first. Maybe even more crazy than our other projects. And the only
way there is a chance of us being successful is, if, eventually, thousands
of us work together on it. The only way this worked in the past is by being
open, start out collaboratively, discuss the path forward, and work towards
creating the project together.

Stay safe,
Denny





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Scott MacLeod
10:14 AM (54 minutes ago)
to Connor, Roddy, Andrew, Scott

Thanks, Connor, Roddy and Andrew, And Finlay

Thanks for your email. I've removed you from this email thread, Finlay. (Am waiting to see how NPC lesson developments work out, Connor).

Inspired also by the great piper PM Stuart Liddell, and thinking of creating PHYSICAL albums after my first upcoming "Honey in the Bag" SSP album, I see that Stuart doesn't list many web recordings - http://www.stuartliddell.com/about - WITH just something on the Web here from 2016 - http://www.stuartliddell.com/music. With my significant focus on the virtual or the digital (I teach a course about the I.T. revolution - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/InfoTechNetworkSocGlobalUniv.html) ... I still see a place for the physical, like a CD, ahead ... and especially in countries like Scotland and all around the world (where the SF Bay Area might think in terms of a musical recording online only, for example) ... since I think the 1) virtual/digital and 2) the physical will continue to play a significant role in music recordings into the future - but in what ways newly? ... There's an emergent opportunity for defining this (and even brainstorming-wise in the WUaS Press - https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1249451894725959680?s=20, for example, and with blockchain ledger etc).

Thank you.

All the best, Scott

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- Scott MacLeod
- http://scottmacleod.com





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Hi Ma,

Will keep my eyes open for Pacific trillium when I head out soon for walk ...  did you see any trillium today?

Good conversation with Petros Kalligas near Athens, Greece, for an hour yesterday re World Univ & Sch ... how was your day?

Am waiting for a call back tomorrow from Kim at state of California's / county's health care options' dept. saying I'm back in Kaiser ...

Lesson tomorrow or next week is another possibly related question ... may begin daily playing earlier than 10 or 10:30 today (am seeking to understand this psychology :)

Hope you have a good week ... if this is all a Covid-19 'fire drill,' to some extent, when can we start becoming social per Denmark and Norway again - https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1247324560942182402?s=20 (and below) - or is a little further 'coronavirus work' still ahead in the USA, differently than in those countries, (their languages) and cultures - and exposure too to (SARS CoV2)?


Amazing too for my big project -

"Already, universities are planning for a fall without students on campus — just in case"
By Deirdre Fernandes Globe Staff,Updated April 13, 2020,

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/13/metro/already-universities-are-planning-fall-without-students-campus-just-case/ and is an in depth article. (Am able to see this behind the pay wall in the Tor browser). I wonder if the President of Brown, Christina Paxson, mentioned here is related to the MIT Professor of Anthropology, Heather Paxson whom I think grew up as a Quaker, having gone to Haverford as undergraduate, and Stanford for PhD. Not sure - bu Christina Paxson did go to Swarthmore, and grew up near Pittsburgh, interestingly.

Love, Scott

PS (again) -
 Swedish paper re #coronavirus :
-Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederikson
Denmark can begin to open after Easter
PM: The first step is to partially open schools
https://dn.se/nyheter/varlden/mette-fredriksen-kan-borja-oppna-danmark-efter-pask/…
- Norway: The epidemic is under control
https://dn.se/nyheter/varlden/norge-epidemin-ar-under-kontroll/…

Swedish paper re #coronavirus :
-Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederikson
Denmark can begin to open after Easter
PM: The first step is to partially open schoolshttps://t.co/MfprvhFwp6
- Norway: The epidemic is under controlhttps://t.co/Fm6UpUq5Wb@WorldUnivAndSch@WUaSPress ~

— Scott_MacLeod_WUaS (@scottmacleod) April 7, 2020

https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1247324560942182402?s=20



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Good morning, Ma,

How's your day going, and what does getting out hold for you? How are you doing, and what are you thinking re where you live about developing practices for living together in a time of heightened genetic-transmission-risk awareness?

Am curious when Wikipedia in many languages and, say, all the trillium species' pages with their pictures and text in Wikipedia could be used to, or will inform, a realistic virtual earth for 'keying' (logical step by step process of identification) flowering plants, so called angiosperms, and almost newly automatically with our smart phones.

Could all of these images to be used to compare with actual flowers be stored / organized in a multi-dimensional SINGLE realistic virtual earth?

Related beginnings (which I began) and in which there are already many Tweets -
#hashtags

Realistic Virtual Earth for Evolution -

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForEvolution?src=hashtag_click

Realistic Virtual Earth for Species -

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForSpecies?src=hashtag_click

Looks like Wikipedia thanks to Wikidata founder (now at Google) Denny Vrandecic is developing a next big multi-lingual step with A.I. for 146 language communities of its 300 languages (with far-reaching implications for my big project).

Connection with a partner / wife ... ? ... am waiting ... on nature partly ... and potentially Cuttyhunk 'culture' as well ... Desiderata-wise too

Got something in my left eye in middle of night - need to get it out now. I'd like for it to migrate out to the lid's edge, where I could remove it, but it hasn't yet. Just looked briefly and couldn't see it ...

Hoping to hear back from the county that I'm back in Kaiser today with a return phone call from Kim ...

Inspired too by the great piper PM Stuart Liddell, and thinking of creating PHYSICAL albums after my first upcoming "Honey in the Bag" SSP album, I see that Stuart doesn't list many web recordings - http://www.stuartliddell.com/about - WITH just something here from 2016 - http://www.stuartliddell.com/music . With my significant focus on the virtual, the digital (I teach a course about the I.T. revolution) ... I still see a place for the physical, like a CD, ahead ... and especially in countries like Scotland ... where the virtual and the physical will continue to play a role in music recordings into the future ... with an emergent opportunity for defining this (and even in my big project's Press, for example).

Love,
Scott

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Ann, Ma, Cathy (and Steve), Alden, Sandy,

Happy Easter!

Oregon Poet Laureate Kim Stafford on Haiku in the Columbia River Gorge -
https://youtu.be/c3uJ_MEqPAQ

He mentions in this very nice video on Haiku poetry, Klindt's books in The Dalles (which I looked up here - https://www.klindtsbooks.com/welcome - since 1870!!! - and was this on the Oregon Trail in one way or another?)

Have blogged today and yesterday about Kim Stafford - and much more in an Easter vein too - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/04/leptopoma-snail-johannes-passion-by-js.html and https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/04/orange-peel-doris-acanthodoris-lutea.html.

Would love to head into Klindt's books in a realistic virtual earth with time slider - https://www.hood-gorge.com/articles/klindts:-oregons-oldest-bookstore - and am thinking Google Street View with TIME SLIDER, Maps, Earth, AI ... and here's a new step in this direction - https://thebulletin.org/virtual-tour/ - 
plus ...
Here's the #RealisticVirtualEarthForBookstores Twitter hashtag for museums -
https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums?src=hashtag_click - and I haven't begun one yet for a realistic virtual earth for bookstores! :) but probably will ...

Happy Easter!

Warmly, Scotty



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Amazing #VirtualWorld Virtual Tour: @BulletinAtomic https://thebulletin.org/virtual-tour/"Turn Back the Clock"https://bit.ly/2Xje3Wz #museumfromhome >ALL museums ALL 7k languages <#GoogleStreetView w #TimeSlider https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Museums @WorldUnivAndSch in 1 #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums~

Amazing #VirtualWorld Virtual Tour: @BulletinAtomichttps://t.co/xKnKLXGOs9"Turn Back the Clock"https://t.co/IW3noW4sKy#museumfromhome>ALL museums ALL 7k languages <#GoogleStreetView w #TimeSliderhttps://t.co/OLdmVYbA4a@WorldUnivAndSch in 1 #RealisticVirtualEarthForMuseums~ https://t.co/qQSfaL4rlX

— WorldUnivandSch (@WorldUnivAndSch) April 14, 2020

https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1250167010253615106?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1250166323486666752?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1250167919108968448?s=20


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Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
@BulletinAtomic · Apr 9
Virtual Tour: Explore the history of the Doomsday Clock. "Turn Back the Clock" takes you through seven decades of history—from the dawn of the nuclear age to the significant global challenges we face today.  https://bit.ly/2Xje3Wz
#museumfromhome cc @WeAreTeachers

Virtual Tour: Explore the history of the Doomsday Clock. "Turn Back the Clock" takes you through seven decades of history—from the dawn of the nuclear age to the significant global challenges we face today. https://t.co/78xjBvOpZZ#museumfromhome
cc @WeAreTeacherspic.twitter.com/NM3IvnGfQ0

— Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (@BulletinAtomic) April 9, 2020

https://twitter.com/BulletinAtomic/status/1248297623015972864?s=20



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Hi Ann, Ma, Cathy, Alden and Sandy,

Happy Easter ...

1 Realistic Virtual Earth For Bookstores - #RealisticVirtualEarthForBookstores - Oregon Poet Laureate Kim Stafford on Haiku in the Columbia River Gorge -
https://youtu.be/c3uJ_MEqPAQ He mentions Klindt's books in The Dalles (which I looked up here https://www.klindtsbooks.com/welcome - since 1870!

1 Realistic Virtual Earth For Bookstores - #RealisticVirtualEarthForBookstores - Oregon Poet Laureate Kim Stafford on Haiku in the Columbia River Gorge -https://t.co/POaK242SSm
He mentions Klindt's books in The Dalles (which I looked up here https://t.co/rUHxEm1QJ3 - since 1870!

— WUaSPress (@WUaSPress) April 12, 2020

https://twitter.com/WUaSPress/status/1249451894725959680?s=20
https://twitter.com/WorldUnivAndSch/status/1249452524509126657?s=20
https://twitter.com/scottmacleod/status/1249453683613380609?s=20
https://twitter.com/sgkmacleod/status/1249454532314066944?s=20
https://twitter.com/TheOpenBand/status/1249455184381538304?s=20
https://twitter.com/HarbinBook/status/1249455946385870848?s=20

Warm regards, :)
Scott



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Very funny Easter picture from the Vienna News ... :)

https://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/chronik/oesterreich/2051665-Live-Blog-zum-Coronavirus-Weihwasser-aus-der-Spritzpistole.html

Install Google Translate into your Chrome browser if interested ... :)

Scott



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HI Ann, Ma, Alden, Sandy, Cathy and Steve,

I was able to dredge up Annie Brown's OregonTrail.net email address and add it above (a different kind of Oregon Trail :). I don't think it works any longer - does it Ann? :)

Looks like the Oregon Trail in one sense was over by 1840, as a footpath, but wagon trails started about then apparently, and then the first intercontinental railway was completed in 1869 - and wagons did stop at The Dalles, and board ships on the Columbia River from there probably for quite a while in here, I'd hazard.

"The Oregon Trail was laid by fur traders and trappers from about 1811 to 1840, and was only passable on foot or by horseback. By 1836, when the first migrant wagon train was organized in Independence, Missouri, a wagon trail had been cleared to Fort Hall, Idaho. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Trail ... :)

Would love to explore the Oregon Trail in The Dalles in a realistic virtual earth for history (am thinking Google Street View with time slider, avatar bots we can talk with - and in the back of our glacier glasses :)

Scott
Two recent Oregon Poet Laureate Kim Stafford posts here -
Orange-peel doris - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/04/orange-peel-doris-acanthodoris-lutea.html
Leptopoma (snail) - https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/04/leptopoma-snail-johannes-passion-by-js.html -
which are Easter posts in a sense too, plus a few others before this eg on Friday :) And see, esp. - https://twitter.com/hashtag/RealisticVirtualEarthForHistory?src=hashtag_click - which Twitter #hashtag does already have quite a few posts.


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- Scott MacLeod
- http://scottmacleod.com